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BABY THE RAIN MUST FALL

Postby GAL BEAR » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:16 pm

I watched this film for the first time last night.
May have seen it years ago on TV but didn't remember much about it.

Director/Producer same as LOVE WITH THE PROPER STRANGER but did not like it as much.

Did not like STEVE'S character in it much, although he looked as gorgeous as ever.

COUPLE QUESTIONS /COMMENTS .....

1. Could a female really have been as dopey as the character Lee
Remick played, God, made me want to yell "Wake up !"
She was a great actress though.

2. What was all the story about STEVE and the old women KATHERINE?
I could not figure out what that was all about.

3. Was that STEVE miming to his own singing?
I remember reading somewhere that it was his actual voice.
If it was I think he had a pretty good voice.
Think his acting in the singing shots were a bit over the top though
kind of ruined those scenes.

4. What the hell was the ending?
Where was Lee Remick going with her daughter ?
Was she going off with the other guy or was she going completely
away? Very hard to figure it out.

5. Wasn't the little girl cute who played STEVE's daughter?
She looked like she could really be his daugther.
God, I worked out she would be nearly 50 now !!!!
Doesn't that make us all feel old ?
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'It's out of control and heading your way". Steve Mcqueen to Paul Newman in the TOWERING INFERNO
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Re: BABY THE RAIN MUST FALL

Postby MCQ3188 » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:44 pm

GAL BEAR wrote:COUPLE QUESTIONS /COMMENTS .....

1. Could a female really have been as dopey as the character Lee
Remick played, God, made me want to yell "Wake up !"
She was a great actress though.

I think she was just an optimistic person who really hoped Henry and she and the baby could start a new life together, even though she knew he'd never change.

2. What was all the story about STEVE and the old women KATHERINE?
I could not figure out what that was all about.

Katherine was the woman who took custody of Steve, raised him, and then was his custodial guardian when he was released on prison.

3. Was that STEVE miming to his own singing?
I remember reading somewhere that it was his actual voice.
If it was I think he had a pretty good voice.
Think his acting in the singing shots were a bit over the top though
kind of ruined those scenes.

That was not Steve's voice. He did overdo it.

4. What the hell was the ending?
Where was Lee Remick going with her daughter ?
Was she going off with the other guy or was she going completely
away? Very hard to figure it out.

I think she was just going back home, wherever she was before they went to meet up with Henry. The policeman was probably giving them a ride to the bus station. He was nice and felt sorry for them, but they didn't get together.


5. Wasn't the little girl cute who played STEVE's daughter?
She looked like she could really be his daugther.
God, I worked out she would be nearly 50 now !!!!
Doesn't that make us all feel old ?

She was sooo cute! I loved the way she and Lee Remick played mother and daughter, and how she played with Steve, especially when they planted the Chinaberry tree.

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Re: BABY THE RAIN MUST FALL

Postby Donna » Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:07 am

2. What was all the story about STEVE and the old women KATHERINE?
I could not figure out what that was all about.

Katherine was the woman who took custody of Steve, raised him, and then was his custodial guardian when he was released on prison.

##and abused him emotionally while she was at it--I'm sure he was dredging up a lot of his own life in this role.


4. What the hell was the ending?
Where was Lee Remick going with her daughter ?
Was she going off with the other guy or was she going completely
away? Very hard to figure it out.

I think she was just going back home, wherever she was before they went to meet up with Henry. The policeman was probably giving them a ride to the bus station. He was nice and felt sorry for them, but they didn't get together.

## in the book (originally titled The Travelling Lady by Horton Foote) she goes off with the policeman, who can give her and her child a steadier life than Henry ever could.
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Postby jr » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:28 am

fantastic in black and white, really good to see William Claxtons still come to life
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Re: BABY THE RAIN MUST FALL

Postby MCQ3188 » Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:45 pm

Donna wrote:
## in the book (originally titled The Travelling Lady by Horton Foote) she goes off with the policeman, who can give her and her child a steadier life than Henry ever could.


Wow, really? I can see how it looks that way in the movie, too, and the thought crossed my mind, but I figured that's not what was happening. Do you think she's leaving with the policeman in the movie version?
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BABY THE RAIN MUST FALL

Postby GAL BEAR » Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:06 pm

Thanks everyone.

But was it Steve's voice doing the singing?
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Postby birdbrain » Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:09 pm

Gal, It wasn't Steve's voice. I can't remember the name of the singer. Does anyone remember? Did you notice Glenn Campbell in the movie?
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Re: Baby

Postby GAL BEAR » Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:31 pm

birdbrain wrote:Gal, It wasn't Steve's voice. I can't remember the name of the singer. Does anyone remember? Did you notice Glenn Campbell in the movie?


Wow, did not notice Glen Campbell, which scene was he in?
I will watch again to see that.

Funny cos a couple of times it sounded like it might be steve singing himself then other times not, thanks for the info Birdbrain.
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Postby birdbrain » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:14 pm

Gal, The scene in the bar, Steve is on stage with the band. Glenn is next to him with guitar[maybe some other scenes too, can't remember]. CARMELA
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Postby Donna » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:42 am

on the soundtrack CD for Baby, by Elmer Bernstein, the vocals are credited to The We Three Trio and Jim & Johnny. Original sleeve notes from 1965 state We Three Trio.
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Postby birdbrain » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:58 am

Donna, Thanks! I haven't been able to find any CD soundtracks of Mcqueen movies. Why? Any suggestions?
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Re: CD

Postby Donna » Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:17 am

birdbrain wrote:Donna, Thanks! I haven't been able to find any CD soundtracks of Mcqueen movies. Why? Any suggestions?


I got all mine on Ebay. check with amazon, or gemm.com

Hugo Friedhofer—Never So Few
Elmer Bernstein—Mag 7, Great Escape, Baby
Lalo Schifrin—Cincinnati Kid, Bullitt
Alfred Newman—Nevada Smith
John Williams—Reivers
Jerry Goldsmith—Papillon, Sand Pebbles
Michel Legrand—Thomas Crown

I don't have the Towering Inferno one. And there are two different Bullitt, GE and SP versions out there, some have more on them.
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Postby birdbrain » Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:34 am

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Postby daniel smague » Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:56 pm

Donna wrote:on the soundtrack CD for Baby, by Elmer Bernstein, the vocals are credited to The We Three Trio and Jim & Johnny. Original sleeve notes from 1965 state We Three Trio.


There are some tracks on the CD "Baby The Rain Must Fall" * which do not exist on the original soundtrack of the movie.

- The track entitled "main title" on CD is quite unheard throughout the movie.I guess this track ,composed by Elmer Bernstein, would have been heard on main credits but maybe Robert Mulligan or Alan Pakula did not like it and it was changed.
The track "Baby the Rain Must fall" sung by The We Three Trio (a vocal group like Peter Paul and Mary but less known ) is on the CD but this version is unheard on the sound track of the movie.

- Curiously the three songs sung by Steve McQueen on stage ARE NOT on the CD. I don't really know if it's Steve's voice or the pre- recorded or post-recorded voice of another singer dubbing Steve,or even a mixing of two voices.

Quotations from the book "Alan J. Pakula" by Jared Brown

Why was Steve McQueen's voice (or whoever's voice was used) singing so off-key and unmelodious ? Was that intended to tell the audience something about Henry Thomas's lack of talent ? Or was it simply a case of a poorly cast singer ? Why did the producer and director allow McQueen's dubbing of the songs to be so absurdly out of synch ?


* In France this CD was released containing two soundtracks: the music of"Baby the Rain Must fall" and the music of "The Pawnbroker"
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Re: soundtrack mysteries

Postby Donna » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:54 am

daniel smague wrote: Quotations from the book "Alan J. Pakula" by Jared Brown

Why was Steve McQueen's voice (or whoever's voice was used) singing so off-key and unmelodious ? Was that intended to tell the audience something about Henry Thomas's lack of talent ? Or was it simply a case of a poorly cast singer ? Why did the producer and director allow McQueen's dubbing of the songs to be so absurdly out of synch


* In France this CD was released containing two soundtracks: the music of"Baby the Rain Must fall" and the music of "The Pawnbroker"


##those were good questions, but are there any answers?


the CD I have pairs it with "The Caretakers".
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